Hello

[CliveSemmens]

Hello anyone who's listening

I don't think I'm real yet, and myself with a space is even deader than I am.

Clive

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Hello myself.

[SKS1]

Space is obviously your enemy!

[CliveSemmens]

I presume that I'm waiting for Rick to approve me now - I think I've done the activation step that I had to do?

Incidentally - you're in Pitlochry? We've passed through a fair few times - we lived in Stornoway '86-'89, my brother's place is in Stromness. My parents used to spend time in and around Pitlochry on holiday, particularly visiting the theatre there.

We live in Greenock now.

[heyrick]

Hi, yup. Just waiting for me to get to break time at work.
You're approved now.

Should I delete the with-a-space account or would you like to play with it on another browser? It would seem really weird if the system permitted you to create usernames with spaces, and then refused to allow you to log in using such. I wonder if it's an encoding glitch?

[SKS1]

I presume that I'm waiting for Rick to approve me now - I think I've done the activation step that I had to do?

Incidentally - you're in Pitlochry? We've passed through a fair few times - we lived in Stornoway '86-'89, my brother's place is in Stromness. My parents used to spend time in and around Pitlochry on holiday, particularly visiting the theatre there.

We live in Greenock now.

Near Pitlochry, actually up the Tay valley towards Aberfeldy.

[CliveSemmens]

Yeah, delete my alter ego. I can see how a system might allow me to create it, and then not allow me to log in using it - just overlooking _preventing_ me creating it, and then using the space as a delimiter during login. Just thunklessness, that rarely bites so doesn't get noticed.

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I presume that I'm waiting for Rick to approve me now - I think I've done the activation step that I had to do?

Incidentally - you're in Pitlochry? We've passed through a fair few times - we lived in Stornoway '86-'89, my brother's place is in Stromness. My parents used to spend time in and around Pitlochry on holiday, particularly visiting the theatre there.

We live in Greenock now.

Near Pitlochry, actually up the Tay valley towards Aberfeldy.

Not quite near neighbours then! You're on what is probably our quickest (but not our shortest) route to my brother's place. Of course we're probably natural sworn enemies anyway, but let's assume not for the moment!

[GrahameParish]

I must have been lucky with my timings, as I got the approval email almost instantaneously after creating the account. I work daily with a system that doesn't allow certain characters when creating an item, but allows them when you edit the item! I could actually go in and fix it, but it's not my problem... :->

[heyrick]

we're probably natural sworn enemies anyway, but let's assume not for the moment!

Put that aside, guys. As of June 2016 you know who the sworn enemies are... ;-)

[CliveSemmens]

I must have been lucky with my timings, as I got the approval email almost instantaneously after creating the account.  I work daily with a system that doesn't allow certain characters when creating an item, but allows them when you edit the item!  I could actually go in and fix it, but it's not my problem... :->

My spaced-out alter ego got his approval email very quickly, too - early this moaning. But then couldn't log on, how hard he tried... 8~)

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we're probably natural sworn enemies anyway, but let's assume not for the moment!

Put that aside, guys. As of June 2016 you know who the sworn enemies are... ;-)

I might, if my memory was good enough to remember who said what!

[GavinWraith]

Invisible or untypable characters are a bane. I remember my shock, some time around 1980, on discovering that the system's makefiles insisted on a tab-character separating targets from sources, when my terminal simply treated tab-characters as spaces.

[SKS1]

Invisible or untypable characters are a bane. I remember my shock, some time around 1980, on discovering that the system's makefiles insisted on a tab-character separating targets from sources, when my terminal simply treated tab-characters as spaces.

Special place in the hot fire for those that came up with that requirement.

[heyrick]

My bane and mental anguish is tabs, period.

Is a tab two spaces? Four? Eight? For my code, in BASIC the indent is two spaces (because I started coding on the Beeb in MODE 7). For C, the indent is three spaces or align with the above elements (makes sense with switch statements and anything spamming multiple lines).
Spaces throughout. Never tabs.

I've had code (written by others) where people have used different tab sizes at different times in the program (usually 4 or 8) and no expansion fixes that mess. Tabs belong in a word processor, not in code.

The terminal treating tabs as spaces is not great, but it probably saved an amount of code figuring out what the hell to do with them. It's not just placement, it's size, it's cursor backwards over them, it's inserting characters and coping, it's just annoying.
(I think the crappy terminal I wrote a billion years ago did the same thing for the same reason; doing tab properly was a wishlist item, not a requirement)